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How To Lower Argyle 318

Jan 29, 2008

Published by rlee560


How to lower Argyle 318 to 70mm.
1. Remove topcap from compression(left) side of fork. Require 24mm socket.

2. Back the screw on the bottom of the same leg out 3 or 4 turns. Wack the screw with a Rubber mallet to unseat the shaft assembly. Then remove the screw the rest of the way. You will need a clean cup to catch the oil that drains out. Save the oil you will have to put it back in later.

3. Tip fork over upside down. The spring assembly will slide out. This is what it looks like.


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4. You will need 30 mm of spacers. The ones I use are 10mm each. They can be purchased at any hardware store for less than a dollar. They are in the same isle as the nuts and bolts.


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5. Remove the spacer on the top of spring assembly. Put in safe place in case you decide to change it back. Slide the 30mm of spacers on the bottom of shaft. I put them in between the negative spring and shaft hat.


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6. Slide assembly back into fork. Replace screw in bottom of leg. Pour oil back in the fork. I used a nylon washer to cushion the spring topcap contact area.


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7. Replace top cap. Done. Fork is now set at 70mm.

48 Comments

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flag RJC91 (Feb 5, 2008 at 17:44) (Below Threshold) show comment
if i only wanted 80 would i use 2 spacers?
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flag abrahamsson (Feb 26, 2008 at 1:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
thx , you the man!
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flag dg85 (May 5, 2008 at 6:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
i did this to my argyles when i had them. i set it to 80 but put the softer yellow spring in so it felt a bit more consistent and not to firm. nice instructions tho dude.
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flag mattsswift (May 6, 2008 at 0:59) (Below Threshold) show comment
can i use 20mm of cut bar as a spacer to make the forks 80mm or does it need to be plastic spacers,
cheers
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flag alvit (May 15, 2008 at 19:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
im just wondering if you lower the travel will the argyle become stiffer?
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flag kieran-street (Aug 5, 2008 at 9:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
wat would happen say if there was no nylon washer
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flag rlee560 (Aug 20, 2008 at 18:22) (Below Threshold) show comment
Nothing. I just put it there so it wasn't metal on metal contact.
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flag djh69 (Nov 15, 2008 at 10:43) (Below Threshold) show comment
would it effect anything if it was metal on metal
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flag kieran-street (Nov 15, 2008 at 11:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
dont think so mines been fine now for over 3 months
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flag bruiser284 (Aug 25, 2008 at 20:56) (Below Threshold) show comment
do the spacers need to be plastic or can they be steel
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flag markhumphris (Nov 21, 2008 at 12:16) (Below Threshold) show comment
doesn't matter, just steel is going to be heavyer and could be louder than plastc because of metal-on-metal.
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flag ryan4dh (Aug 26, 2008 at 20:18) (Below Threshold) show comment
if i used 2 10mm ones would it be 80mm?
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flag dancallahan (Sep 10, 2008 at 19:03) (Below Threshold) show comment
yes, if they are 10mm each
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flag ru-the-ginger (May 11, 2009 at 13:26) (Below Threshold) show comment
i take it you aint good at math then!!
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flag dancallahan (May 11, 2009 at 13:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
I failed.
ryan obviously started the fail thing.
If you used 2 10 mm ones if would be 20mm, if you used 8 10 mm ones it would be 80 mm
but, I think he is saying that if he used 2 10 mm ones would it lower to 80 mm.
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flag ru-the-ginger (May 11, 2009 at 13:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
yerr, either way he is shit at maths cos 100-20=80 obv and 8x10=80 thats easy lol
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flag TomMarius (Sep 16, 2008 at 11:47) (Below Threshold) show comment
How am i going to do this with a 409?
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flag ns001 (Sep 18, 2008 at 4:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
is 302 the same?
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flag peteb121 (Oct 7, 2008 at 8:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
would this work for 2008 302 domains as well? do the spacers have to be plastic?
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flag dodo3352 (Oct 8, 2008 at 19:22) (Below Threshold) show comment
hey i got a quick question, i used the whole top spacer to lower mine, but when it was lowered i got only 20mm travel out of them? i had it installed right, would you be able to help me out and show me a pic of exactly where your forks bottom out to?
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flag djh69 (Nov 15, 2008 at 10:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
you said to take off cap on left side, is that the blue thing on the 318 becasue on the pictures its on the other side, i have the 302 and there both the same??
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flag mtbdarren318 (Dec 17, 2008 at 22:11) (Below Threshold) show comment
take out the spring assembly on the left side, where theres the little bolt sticking out the bottom, not the side with the rebound on the bottom
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flag themightyboss (Nov 17, 2008 at 12:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
will this method work for nay fork?
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flag donleon (Mar 23, 2009 at 5:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
You just hace to insert some spacers under the negative spring, it'll look similiar in every fork, got some 'hooks' on the dumpers body, where U need to mount those spacers, It'll lower the fork and the travel as well. Don't remove the original spacers from another places, it could cause the effect that we could have seen in the pre 'tire clearance upgrade' manitous - bottomed out fork makes the tire hit the crown... In every brand our mod would look various, in manitous U don't have neither to remove the caps nor to pour the oil out, you just have to take the lower stanchions off.
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flag pev182 (Dec 20, 2008 at 11:17) (Below Threshold) show comment
thanks dude
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flag dillonchamberlain (Dec 21, 2008 at 13:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
i want to lower my argyle 409, got any tips?
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flag Blk-Mrkt (Jan 19, 2009 at 15:21) (Below Threshold) show comment
will this work for pretty much any fork?

Thanx. (:
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flag kieran-street (Mar 9, 2009 at 14:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
no it will only work for an argyle 302 or 318 but its very simalar to doing a 409 other forks such as mz are harder as you need to take apart the whole for but its the same principle as the more spacers/higher the spacers the lower the fork will be
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flag ChaseRider7point5 (Mar 6, 2009 at 9:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
so basically no oil came out of the left leg...maybe a couple of drops. how much should come out/how much should i put back in?
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flag bikingarran (Mar 14, 2009 at 13:22) (Below Threshold) show comment
u r a legdend thnaks!!
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flag m-and-ms (Apr 5, 2009 at 10:05) (Below Threshold) show comment
will this work on a domain 302 without the u turn?
like with just more spacers or no?
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flag rlee560 (Apr 5, 2009 at 10:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
I'm not familiar with the domain but they should be similar. You will have to take it apart and see. No big deal.
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flag roger-dodger (Apr 13, 2009 at 9:41) (Below Threshold) show comment
Were would I pour the oil back in?
Once you have tightened the bolt on the bottom of the fork do you just pour it in the top?
Or a certain area?
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flag konerking (Apr 24, 2009 at 18:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
what is the width of the spacers
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flag ledzeppie (May 15, 2009 at 15:37) (Below Threshold) show comment
Whats the advantage to lowering a fork? I'm getting a DJ1 lowered to 80mm for my P1, would It screw anything up?
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flag ledzeppie (May 15, 2009 at 15:38) (Below Threshold) show comment
I'm getting a DJ1 that has already been lowered for my p1*
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flag p45tom (May 16, 2009 at 4:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
i just did my 302s used the spacer that was inside they seem really low now an lot stiffer too bitch to fget the top cap backk on because theres loads of tension
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flag live-life-2-ride-mtb (Jun 2, 2009 at 9:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
have you had any problem's with them now there at 70mm ?

because im thinking of doing it to mine !
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flag p45tom (Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
nah but there about 60 by using the inside spacer
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flag live-life-2-ride-mtb (Jun 2, 2009 at 10:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
oh right, yeah i tryed to do that just the minute ago but when i tryed to put it back in the same order as the pictures ^, i couldnt get the little allen key screw to bite to the internal thread near the bottom of my fork !

so i gave up and put them back to normal
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flag p45tom (Jun 2, 2009 at 11:12) (Below Threshold) show comment
ye mine did tht you have to angle the screw a bit and tighten that worked for me
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flag live-life-2-ride-mtb (Jun 2, 2009 at 11:43) (Below Threshold) show comment
cool i might give it another go but i lost most the oil
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flag towers08 (Jun 2, 2009 at 12:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
just buy some fresh, it doesn't cost that much
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flag live-life-2-ride-mtb (Jun 2, 2009 at 12:36) (Below Threshold) show comment
i might do but there is a little bit in there and i like them softer !

but what oil will i need ?

thanks
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flag towers08 (Jun 2, 2009 at 12:38) (Below Threshold) show comment
any shock oil

i got some finishline for my boxxers when i got new seals and that was something like £11

just get a syringe and put some in and when you like the feel of them leave it as that.

the less oil the softer they will be. but make sure you have oil in them because if you dont have enough it might f*ck em
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flag live-life-2-ride-mtb (Jun 2, 2009 at 13:11) (Below Threshold) show comment
they have a little in, think its enough, but i might buy some !

sounds like a good idea !

thanks
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flag joe3316norco (Jun 2, 2009 at 19:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
For the spacers can I use the ones that came in the box or are those for something else
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flag jordanp2rider (Jun 18, 2009 at 2:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
anyone know the diameter of the spacers used??
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